My conversation this week is with Laura Gramling, a 3rd year graduate student attending Palo Alto University pursuing her doctorate in Clinical Psychology. We chat about her college journey to date and the lessons she's learned along the way related to having that difficult conversation with her parents about her interests, to the challenges of paying for college, to having the support she needed, to what keeps her motivated and more.
I strongly believe students can benefit greatly from the experiences of other students. So, rather than highlight some of the lessons shared during this conversation, I'll leave it up to you, the listener, to interpret and glean lessons that resonate with you . . . enjoy!
Laura referenced the following poem that serves as inspiration for her in her work with clients:
A Leader by Lao Tzu
A leader is best when people hardly know he exists;
Not so good when people obey and acclaim him;
Worst when they despise him.
But of a good leader who talks little,
When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,
They will say, "We did it ourselves."
The less a leader does and says,
The happier his people;
The more he struts and brags,
The sorrier his people;
[Therefore,] a sensible man says:
If I keep from meddling with people, they take care of themselves.
If I keep from preaching at people, they improve themselves.
If I keep from imposing on people, they become themselves.
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